Goodly Christian Weapons

On the way home from dropping Smartypants and Diva at school, I caught a report claiming that Colorado Police are searching for a link between the two gunmen who opened fire on churches in Colorado. One attack occurred at a youth missionary center in the Denver suburb of Arvada and another at New Life Church in Colorado Springs.

Sadly, I do not find the incidents mind-boggling. While attacks against churches and schools are not commonplace, they are no longer outside the realm of the imagination either. We have simply entered into a dark, depressing period where tragedy has lost its shock value and violence is the norm.

However, this comment did manage to catch my attention:

“The gunman was killed by a member of the church’s armed security staff before police arrived.”

Armed security staff? At church? Remember when prayer was considered the most powerful weapon in the Christian arsenal?

I am not sure which of these I find more distressing. Is it that (1) Christians started packing heat (2) such extreme measures are clearly necessary or (3) I am not even mildly flabbergasted by the fact?

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10 thoughts on “Goodly Christian Weapons

  1. This event is horric. Nevertheless the same headline grabbed my attention, “The gunman was killed by a member of the church’s armed security staff before police arrived.”

    When did Christ ever condone using a sword at the same time as wielding the cross?

  2. Indeed, an armed security guard at a church?
    wow, our church only has old men ushers…
    although I suppose there is armed support at large Vatican events.

    and the other gunman, er the security guard, credits God- acting through the Holy Spirit, as guiding her. yikes. double yikes.

    Is U.S. Christianity just a sub-cult of the culture?
    Will your blond, blue-eyed muscular gun-toting Jesus save you by mowing down the heathen with his mighty Uzi?

    In the U.S., that has been our imagery – this may just be the logical step.

  3. My understanding is that the guard was asked to come after the first shooting at the other church.

    “Boyd said the megachurch instituted security precautions after the shootings at the Denver area mission center.”–From CNN.

  4. I think it is sad that neither of the churches are commenting about why this man was denied a place to sleep. For God’s sake, it was snowing outside. Is this really what Jesus would have done?

  5. “Is U.S. Christianity just a sub-cult of the culture?
    Will your blond, blue-eyed muscular gun-toting Jesus save you by mowing down the heathen with his mighty Uzi?”

    Way to extrapolate this based on nothing in the text of the story.

    You may be surprised by this, but you can carry a concealed weapon in many churches in the US, unless they post signs saying otherwise.

    Likewise, some of them have employed guards for their membership’s safety. If the world were a perfect place, you’re right, no one would need an armed guard at a church. But it’s not. You’re faulting them for providing a solution, instead of decrying the nutjob who deserves your contempt.

    “and the other gunman, er the security guard, credits God- acting through the Holy Spirit, as guiding her. yikes. double yikes.”

    You can take the “turn the other cheek” thing literally if you want, but I find it completely useless in this scenario.
    This woman (the guard) was in a rare, unique situation and had the means to prevent further loss of life. She did so. Are you saying you’d do differently?

  6. Is there any particular reason Christians should not use deadly force to defend themselves against a gunman with intent to kill? Could anyone consider that it was God’s providence to have armed security available in that situation?

    I am curious about the comment that the man had been denied a place to sleep. The articles I read said he had a grudge based on a past association with the group and had been threatening them. In any case, churches are not necessarily allowed by law to act as impromptu homeless shelters.

  7. Boy, I love Jesus. The security guard claimed that she prayed to the Holy Spirit to help her and that she wasn’t even shaking when she shot. Could someone who believes this hooey please explain to me how Jesus can save the day by allowing this woman to shoot the guy, but he couldn’t have stopped the shooter, in the first place, from entering the church and taking innocent lives?

  8. jeanne assam a cop keeping colorado safer.

    Employment Start:
    Employment End:

    Reports with Civilian Review Authority

    CASE NUMBER ALLEGATION(S) FINDING CHIEF^S ACTION
    93-0532 DISMISSED
    96-1026 DISMISSED
    97-1075 ONE ALLEGATION PROB CAUSE
    97-1075 DEROGATORY LANGUAGE SUSTAINED 24 HR SUSPENSION

    Reports with Internal Affairs

    CASE NUMBER ALLEGATION(S) FINDING

  9. Victor, why do you say Jesus couldn’t have stopped the shooter? God allows evil in the world today. He allows it to touch some of his children sometimes. Isaiah 55:7-9.

    I do stand corrected about the man being denied a place to sleep. The article said he asked, he was denied; they were in the process of looking for an alternative place when he started shooting. If it is true that he had been threatening the organization I can see their hesitance to let him stay. But that is just speculation on my part.

  10. Jim, this information is in regard to Assam’s professional history? Though I find it slightly disturbing that she cast herself in the role of David to the gunman’s Goliath, I’m not sure this information would be relevant.

    Clearly, this was a disgruntled and very disturbed man. The weaponry in his possession was a good indication that he arrived with the intent to harm. She was employed to protect. Her actions were justified – therefore I am not sure prior work history would amount to anything other than a few extra story miles for the mainstream media.

    All in all, Irving expressed my concerns perfectly.

    If the world were a perfect place, you’re right, no one would need an armed guard at a church. But it’s not.

    The rights of congregation members to arrive at church armed or the decision to employ guards does not illustrate the sad state of affairs we are in as much as the fact that we need to do this at all.

    And Joe – we have those old men ushers too, but they’re are harmless compared to the granny’s with big pocketbooks and mean walking canes.

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